Bad People Doing Bad Things, Good People Doing Good Things, or Otherwise Good People Doing Stupid Things?
This was a tough interview in some regards. Jake is unapologetic about his actions on January 6. In his violent actions, he believes he was acting in the defense of others who were being attacked by both Capitol Police and DC Metro Police. He even believes he was ordained by God to be put in the position he found himself in that day. Not just by God, but that he was also acting on the principles set forth by this country’s Founding Fathers.
Jake also believes January 6 was the first battle of the second American Revolution. He doesn’t give credence to the conspiracy theories that Antifa or elements of federal agencies were involved in the breaching of those first barricade lines or the Capitol Building itself. He believes those individuals were “true patriots” there to stop the certification of an illegal election in “the spirit of revolution.”
This was a two-part interview — conducted on February 3rd and 16th of 2023 — covering almost two hours of conversation. During Part One of the interview, it got pretty contentious at times. Jake frequently interrupted my questions and at one point he even called me a “tyrant sympathizer.”
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During Part Two of the interview — which begins at 57:25 — Jake was much more even-keeled. I think he then understood that my hardline of questions about his actions was less a criticism, and more a desire to understand his mindset on that day.
Jake is passionate and well articulates his ideas and positions. This interview is worth a listen and will be a surprise to those who think January 6 was only instigated by Antifa or “the Feds.”
My position remains unchanged. I still believe January 6 was instigated by professional provocateurs — whomever they might be associated with — and that what I saw that day consisted of three types of individuals: bad people who did bad things, good people who did good things, and otherwise good people who did stupid things — whipped into the fray by those pros. Jake rejects the notion that he falls into any of those categories. Listen, and he’ll tell you why.
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